Rubramin Subtitute to Cyanocobalamin

[msb_marvin]

just to share and
ask and help...

i bought B12...
neurobion (ampoules)
injection B12 1000ug
cyanacobalamin...B6 100mg
pyridoxime hydrochloride..
B1 100mg thiamine chloride

B12, B6 & B1 in whole
package its this ok to
our fighting cocks
made in germany

[OREVON]

Originally Posted by msb_marvin

just to share and
ask and help...

i bought B12...
neurobion (ampoules)
injection B12 1000ug
cyanacobalamin...B6 100mg
pyridoxime hydrochloride..
B1 100mg thiamine chloride

B12, B6 & B1 in whole
package its this ok to
our fighting cocks
made in germany

read the prescription and if you think it will helps use it but surely B12 will work something on your chickens. but as what i've read from other thread 5000mcg cyanocobalamin composition is much better.

happy cocking.

[geronimo_46]

Originally Posted by OREVON

read the prescription and if you think it will helps use it but surely B12 will work something on your chickens. but as what i've read from other thread 5000mcg cyanocobalamin composition is much better.

happy cocking.

FOR OUR CHICKEN I THINK WE DONT NEED THAT MUCH DOSAGE.....EXAMPLE 1000 MG. .30ML P/INJECTION...... 5000 MG. .10ML P/INJECTION......IF YOU GIVE THE SAME DOSAGE WITH 1000 MG. PATAY YUNG MANOK MO KASAMA PERA MO.

[OREVON]

Originally Posted by geronimo_46

FOR OUR CHICKEN I THINK WE DONT NEED THAT MUCH DOSAGE.....EXAMPLE 1000 MG. .30ML P/INJECTION...... 5000 MG. .10ML P/INJECTION......IF YOU GIVE THE SAME DOSAGE WITH 1000 MG. PATAY YUNG MANOK MO KASAMA PERA MO.

prescription is different from the dosage.

Prescription is the overall information about the medicine.

And we're talking here about the prescription. Most cockers prefers cyanocobalamin 5000mcg because of very small dosage of 0.10ml per intravenous application.

Dosage is the amount of liquid that you need to give intravenously.

[msb_marvin]

Originally Posted by OREVON

read the prescription and if you think it will helps use it but surely B12 will work something on your chickens. but as what i've read from other thread 5000mcg cyanocobalamin composition is much better.

Originally Posted by OREVON

happy cocking.

tnx for your info

but as up now i
can not find B12
with 5000mcg.
i read the prescription
that this vitamins is
good for human body.
ok i will try this vit. in
my vacation in PI and
i will post later on it is
good for conditioning
of fighting cock. by the
way tnx again sir.

[rolando329]

Originally Posted by IMC Gamefarm

Anybody around Spain, try nyo po ang Optovite B12 1000 Gammas napaka effective po at napaka mura pa 2.28 Euros lang ang isang pack with 5 ampules inside. Pwede nyo pang padala sa Post office 2 weeks nga lang bago dumating satin. Yan po ang ginagamit namin ngayon sa farm.

Sir IMC,thank you so much for the information that you have shared to me about cyanocobalamin optovite 1000gamma B12,i tried it w/ convincing results. i fought 5cocks and i won straigt,its amazing performance.i bought here in spain w/o prescription.Here is the video of my fight during my vacation last jan. 2009,against a prominent cocker in our place.im the who release the cock(DEHADO AKO DITO)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23cmRkyGfVs

up uli natin.................

[bebs espinosa]

Hydroxocobalamin (OHCbl) is a natural analog of vitamin B-12, a basic member of the cobalamin family of compounds. Iit has an intense red color. Vitamin B12 is a term that refers to a group of compounds called cobalamins that are available in the human body in a variety of mostly interconvertible forms. Together with folic acid, cobalamins are essential cofactors required for DNA synthesis in cells where chromosomal replication and division are occurring—most notably the bone marrow and myeloid cells. As a cofactor, cobalamins are essential for two cellular reactions: (1) the mitochondrial methylmalonylcoenzyme A mutase conversion of methylmalonic acid (MMA) to succinate, which links lipid and carbohydrate metabolism, and (2) activation of methionine synthase, which is the rate limiting step in the synthesis of methionine from homocysteine and tetrahydrofolate (Katzung, 1989).





Cyanocobalamin is one such compound that is a vitamin in this B complex, because it can be metabolized in the body to an active co-enzyme form. However, the cyanocobalamin form of B-12 does not occur in nature normally, but is a byproduct of the fact that other forms of B-12 are avid binders of cyanide (-CN) which they pick up in the process of activated charcoal purification of the vitamin after it is made by bacteria in the commercial process. Since the cyanocobalamin form of B-12 is deeply red colored, easy to crystallize, and is not sensitive to air-oxidation, it is typically used as a form of B-12 for food additives and in many common multivitamins. However, this form is not perfectly synonymous with B-12, inasmuch as a number of substances (vitamers) have B-12 vitamin activity and can properly be labeled vitamin B-12, and cyanocobalamin is but one of them. (Thus, all cyanocobalamin is vitamin B-12, but not all vitamin B-12 is cyanocobalamin).[3]

[dsgamefowl]

Originally Posted by geronimo_46

FOR OUR CHICKEN I THINK WE DONT NEED THAT MUCH DOSAGE.....EXAMPLE 1000 MG. .30ML P/INJECTION...... 5000 MG. .10ML P/INJECTION......IF YOU GIVE THE SAME DOSAGE WITH 1000 MG. PATAY YUNG MANOK MO KASAMA PERA MO.

Sir Geronimo_46 I've used this Catosal B-12 for 4 months now fro Breeding .5cc once a week and still Alive and it helps produce Healthy Chicks and we used this for Maintenance and for Conditioning as well and the result is Great!
Good luck and God Bless..

...............................

upppppppppppppppp

[OREVON]

next time subukan ko ito

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...scan0001-1.jpghttp://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...0081231721.jpg
Heto po ang formula contents nitong Super Vitamina B12 5500:

Each ml contains: Cyanocobalamin (B12) 2500mcg
Hydroxocobalamin 3000mcg
Vitamin B15 1250mcg
Biotin (Vitamin H) 50mcg
Raw Liver extract 4% (V/V)

Indications:
Appetite stimulant, in case of pernicious anemia. Use when vitamin deficiency is suspected. For maintaning the correct nervous system functioning under stress conditions. Recommended in case of dramatic environmental, food or temperature changes.

Administration:
Intramuscular, subcutaneous or intravenous

Dose:
Fighting Cocks 0,5ml
Horses 5.0ml
Cattle and Pigs 2-5ml
Dogs and Cats 0.5 - 1.0ml

Dose can be repeated after two or three days.

MANUFACTURED IN MEXICO BY:

LABORATORIES TORNEL

[chrishapitan]

CYANOCOBALAMIN
INJECTION, USP
1000 mcg/ml

NDC 0517-0130-05
5x 30ml
MULTPLE DOSE VIALS

For Intramuscular or Subcutaneous use only

Contact: Jun-jun 09176277273 or 4168329
Direct seller Jun-jun Gothong

[arkinsly-jrl]

i also have used that rubramin back in p.i.! it did good for me theres a store here in US that sells that kind of b12 cyonocoblamin 100 ml costs like $30! firststatevetsupply.com is the site hope it helps!

[kogmohon]

Originally Posted by chrishapitan

CYANOCOBALAMIN
INJECTION, USP
1000 mcg/ml

NDC 0517-0130-05
5x 30ml
MULTPLE DOSE VIALS

For Intramuscular or Subcutaneous use only

Contact: Jun-jun 09176277273 or 4168329
Direct seller Jun-jun Gothong

this is good for you and your chicken...say goodbye to viagra .2 x1 weekly...

[Hatch Black]

Originally Posted by OREVON

next time subukan ko ito

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...scan0001-1.jpghttp://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...0081231721.jpg
Heto po ang formula contents nitong Super Vitamina B12 5500:

Each ml contains: Cyanocobalamin (B12) 2500mcg
Hydroxocobalamin 3000mcg
Vitamin B15 1250mcg
Biotin (Vitamin H) 50mcg
Raw Liver extract 4% (V/V)

Indications:
Appetite stimulant, in case of pernicious anemia. Use when vitamin deficiency is suspected. For maintaning the correct nervous system functioning under stress conditions. Recommended in case of dramatic environmental, food or temperature changes.

Administration:
Intramuscular, subcutaneous or intravenous

Dose:
Fighting Cocks 0,5ml
Horses 5.0ml
Cattle and Pigs 2-5ml
Dogs and Cats 0.5 - 1.0ml

Dose can be repeated after two or three days.

MANUFACTURED IN MEXICO BY:

LABORATORIES TORNEL

i have used this product with good results. i give 1/10 cc the first and second sat. of a 3 week keep and then i give it back to back days on fri. and sat. before the show.

[Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by carlpoten

hi there,

share ko lang ito. i'm here sa u.k. most doctors prefer to use the hydroxocobalamin than cyanocobalamin as a form of b12 because it stays longer in the body and for maintenance therapy you can use them with interval of 3mos. cobalin-h is the brand name or neo-cytamen. this is according to the british drug book. di ba ang laking tipid and comforting for the chickens coz you don't need to inject weekly.

i prefer to use cyanocobalamin rather than hydroxocobalamin. chickens get water logged with hydroxocobalamin

[timiboy420]

Originally Posted by dsgamefowl

Sir Geronimo_46 I've used this Catosal B-12 for 4 months now fro Breeding .5cc once a week and still Alive and it helps produce Healthy Chicks and we used this for Maintenance and for Conditioning as well and the result is Great!
Good luck and God Bless..

Catosal B-12 contains 5000mcg/100ml at 1ml the B-12 content is only 50mcg too small, by injecting 0.5cc/bird it contains 25mcg cyanocobalamin only which is equivalent to Bexan XP in content. SAFE

[khomael78]

mga kasabong, may alam ba kayong pwede pagkuhaan ng rubramin? We used to administer this to our fowls and it gives us good results but nowadays, di na namin makita sa market...

[La Cagayanon]

Originally Posted by khomael78

mga kasabong, may alam ba kayong pwede pagkuhaan ng rubramin? We used to administer this to our fowls and it gives us good results but nowadays, di na namin makita sa market...

Hyper B-12 is a good substitute!

[lordwally]

sir d-joker ang sir big z,ive used sandoz b12 last jan.14 2011.its 4 cock derby i score 3w1l,for me the chicken move and they are on peak.when i lost my 2nd fight with just a peak,it make my chicken last for a long even the intestines and gizzard was already out from the first break.it means that the sandoz b12 is effective,but make sure to consider other aspects.goodluck

[tipolopoint]

Originally Posted by msb_marvin

tnx for your info


but as up now i

can not find B12
with 5000mcg.
i read the prescription
that this vitamins is
good for human body.
ok i will try this vit. in
my vacation in PI and
i will post later on it is
good for conditioning
of fighting cock. by the
way tnx again sir.

sir, if u r looking for te sv b12, i can help u with that...

[tipolopoint]

Originally Posted by OREVON

next time subukan ko ito

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...scan0001-1.jpghttp://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...0081231721.jpg
Heto po ang formula contents nitong Super Vitamina B12 5500:

Each ml contains: Cyanocobalamin (B12) 2500mcg
Hydroxocobalamin 3000mcg
Vitamin B15 1250mcg
Biotin (Vitamin H) 50mcg
Raw Liver extract 4% (V/V)

Indications:
Appetite stimulant, in case of pernicious anemia. Use when vitamin deficiency is suspected. For maintaning the correct nervous system functioning under stress conditions. Recommended in case of dramatic environmental, food or temperature changes.

Administration:
Intramuscular, subcutaneous or intravenous

Dose:
Fighting Cocks 0,5ml
Horses 5.0ml
Cattle and Pigs 2-5ml
Dogs and Cats 0.5 - 1.0ml

Dose can be repeated after two or three days.

MANUFACTURED IN MEXICO BY:

LABORATORIES TORNEL

Super Vitamina B12 5500 sa mga interesado ho d2, pwede ko ho kayo matulungan... just send me a pm lng po... salamat...

[kogmohon]

Originally Posted by khomael78

mga kasabong, may alam ba kayong pwede pagkuhaan ng rubramin? We used to administer this to our fowls and it gives us good results but nowadays, di na namin makita sa market...

rubramin has been phased out...the closest to it is cyanocobalamin by regents...

[Hotcocker]

Originally Posted by sambulat

chris,

since the b12 picture that you have posted above belongs to me (look at the title, it has my user name) let me just inform you and others who are looking for b12 that the brand of the said product is not Rubramin like what you have written. It's made by Regent and we have supplied this to doc tjt and he had confirmed that it's composition is same as Rubramin (discontinued brand).

if you carry that same b12 on the picture, then you get the good one.

I use this type, it is made for humans, its the highest quality possible to obtain and fast acting, also doesnt dry a roosters blood like the veterinary brands.

[Hotcocker]

Originally Posted by sambulat

chris,

since the b12 picture that you have posted above belongs to me (look at the title, it has my user name) let me just inform you and others who are looking for b12 that the brand of the said product is not Rubramin like what you have written. It's made by Regent and we have supplied this to doc tjt and he had confirmed that it's composition is same as Rubramin (discontinued brand).

if you carry that same b12 on the picture, then you get the good one.

I use this type, it is made for humans, its the highest quality possible to obtain and fast acting, also doesnt dry a roosters blood like the veterinary brands.

[giosfowl]

is there any soluble vitamin b12 that can be used in chicks n baby stag?

[giosfowl]

just needed good answers pls

[OREVON]

Originally Posted by giosfowl

is there any soluble vitamin b12 that can be used in chicks n baby stag?

catosal by bayer...........that's what am using on my cockerels. also good for conditioning stags. best for breeding and maintenance.

[cabros]

If you are looking for American Regents B12 Cyanocobalamin 1000mcg 30ml, expiration date: Nov 2012, contact Maryjune @ cp# 09278122392, 09498623052.
She just received 50vials today. 30vials still available for sale. 20 vials is reserved for a wholeseller.